tradahoo
10-25 02:54 PM
Hi,
I want to know if it's permissible to pursue full time education immediately after getting an employer sponsored green card. And if not, how long should I work for the sponsored employer before getting to full time study?
Thank you.
I want to know if it's permissible to pursue full time education immediately after getting an employer sponsored green card. And if not, how long should I work for the sponsored employer before getting to full time study?
Thank you.
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Googler
02-16 02:37 PM
Suppose the admin fix to recapture 'lost' visas is a success. How many will India Eb2 get out of that ? May be 5000 ?
One really needs to know the number of India Eb2 applicants pending in each year ( of PD ) . If it iturns out , say , there are 25000 I-485 applications with PD up to year 2002, then ?!
Will a USCIS customer service rep be able to help us with this question :
"Sir/Madam how many India EB2 applicants are waiting , with PD earlier than mine ? " .
My friend, in 2003-2004 alone there were 136K EB greencards wasted. When recaptured, in the past they have been given to oversubscribed countries. That is almost an entire years supply of EB greencards.
As far as your last question goes: I'm amazed, given your interest in this subject, that you have not read the 2005-2006-2007 Ombudsmans reports which discusses in some detail how USCIS claims that it cannot provide data on pending applications by EB preference, country of chargeability, and PD. Do take some time to familiarize yourself with these reports (and read the damn footnotes.)
One really needs to know the number of India Eb2 applicants pending in each year ( of PD ) . If it iturns out , say , there are 25000 I-485 applications with PD up to year 2002, then ?!
Will a USCIS customer service rep be able to help us with this question :
"Sir/Madam how many India EB2 applicants are waiting , with PD earlier than mine ? " .
My friend, in 2003-2004 alone there were 136K EB greencards wasted. When recaptured, in the past they have been given to oversubscribed countries. That is almost an entire years supply of EB greencards.
As far as your last question goes: I'm amazed, given your interest in this subject, that you have not read the 2005-2006-2007 Ombudsmans reports which discusses in some detail how USCIS claims that it cannot provide data on pending applications by EB preference, country of chargeability, and PD. Do take some time to familiarize yourself with these reports (and read the damn footnotes.)
hiralal
06-05 07:01 AM
Now, what would really be effective is for our own people that are already naturalized and integrated and assimilated and digested in the US system to stand up for our cause.
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I agree with bajrangbali :D ...money, dollars, gold and green cards will shower from the sky, all men will have 5 wives (add your own dreams here ..), etc etc before you see our own people (i.e. other legal immigrants) stand up for our cause. there maybe exceptions but most / many will be happy to see us leave !!!
as the famous saying goes ..you have come alone in this world ..do your work alone and don't depend or expect anything from others
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I agree with bajrangbali :D ...money, dollars, gold and green cards will shower from the sky, all men will have 5 wives (add your own dreams here ..), etc etc before you see our own people (i.e. other legal immigrants) stand up for our cause. there maybe exceptions but most / many will be happy to see us leave !!!
as the famous saying goes ..you have come alone in this world ..do your work alone and don't depend or expect anything from others
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sledge_hammer
02-16 08:27 AM
Great find!
I guess all the talk about suing USCIS will go down the toilet based on this excerpt from the article -
"Assuming that under the plenary power doctrine noncitizens possess few, if any, constitutional protections with respect to entering the country, the implications of racial and national origin exclusions on citizens must be considered. Because the Constitution unquestionably protects the rights of citizens, citizens claiming injury have a better chance at successfully challenging the immigration laws than noncitizens directly affected by their operation. Courts have recognized that citizens in certain circumstances may challenge the lawfulness of immigration laws because of the impact on their rights."
oguinan,
Paragraph 1 of Article 1 establishes the definition of racial discrimination for the purpose of the document. Paragraphs 2 and 3 limit the operation of the convention. As to why paragraphs 2 & 3 were included, perhaps they were required to get countries to sign on to the convention.
Here's a better link. Read under Modern Racial Exclusion, excerpts of which I have posted below.
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/immigr09.htm
...similarly situated persons (e.g., siblings and children of U.S. citizens) may face radically different waits for immigration depending on their country of origin, with accompanying racial impacts.
The law created a new immigrant visa program that effectively represents affirmative action for white immigrants, a group that benefitted from preferential treatment under the national origins quota system until 1965. Congress, in an ironic twist of political jargon, established the "diversity" visa program, which though facially neutral prefers immigrants from nations populated primarily by white people.
The link to the CERD report is here. The convention does not address the country limit directly as the convention expressly does not apply in that area, but it does show that there is awareness about the discrimination faced by immigrants. http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/6d8aee7e356e6498c1256d4e00557f3b?Opendocument
You can see that the UN panel is aware of the fact that racial discrimination manifests itself in disproportional representation (note the reference to the composition of the Supreme Court). It can be argued that the 7% country limit provides a pretext to discriminate against India/China/Mexico on the basis of ethnic or racial origin, and as such would run afoul of the convention.
I guess all the talk about suing USCIS will go down the toilet based on this excerpt from the article -
"Assuming that under the plenary power doctrine noncitizens possess few, if any, constitutional protections with respect to entering the country, the implications of racial and national origin exclusions on citizens must be considered. Because the Constitution unquestionably protects the rights of citizens, citizens claiming injury have a better chance at successfully challenging the immigration laws than noncitizens directly affected by their operation. Courts have recognized that citizens in certain circumstances may challenge the lawfulness of immigration laws because of the impact on their rights."
oguinan,
Paragraph 1 of Article 1 establishes the definition of racial discrimination for the purpose of the document. Paragraphs 2 and 3 limit the operation of the convention. As to why paragraphs 2 & 3 were included, perhaps they were required to get countries to sign on to the convention.
Here's a better link. Read under Modern Racial Exclusion, excerpts of which I have posted below.
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/immigr09.htm
...similarly situated persons (e.g., siblings and children of U.S. citizens) may face radically different waits for immigration depending on their country of origin, with accompanying racial impacts.
The law created a new immigrant visa program that effectively represents affirmative action for white immigrants, a group that benefitted from preferential treatment under the national origins quota system until 1965. Congress, in an ironic twist of political jargon, established the "diversity" visa program, which though facially neutral prefers immigrants from nations populated primarily by white people.
The link to the CERD report is here. The convention does not address the country limit directly as the convention expressly does not apply in that area, but it does show that there is awareness about the discrimination faced by immigrants. http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/6d8aee7e356e6498c1256d4e00557f3b?Opendocument
You can see that the UN panel is aware of the fact that racial discrimination manifests itself in disproportional representation (note the reference to the composition of the Supreme Court). It can be argued that the 7% country limit provides a pretext to discriminate against India/China/Mexico on the basis of ethnic or racial origin, and as such would run afoul of the convention.
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gc28262
06-12 12:40 AM
People need to understand that you need to give some to win some. I would like to propose to IV a kind of proposal that would be a win win for both the immigrants and the US.
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dilipcr,
Don't tell us you are trying to save america for americans ( now that you are going to be a citizen)
You are just trying to close the door behind you.
You think Grassley bill is good for everyone. Yeah sure it is good for you !
You have begun to think like loosers guild( aka programmers guild)
You claim the fittest will survive and you don't need any luck to survive. However you had your round of layoffs too. That is a fact of american job market. Luck does play a lot in people's lives especially here in US. I have heard of an IBM engineer who was laid off during 2001 recession. He had 2 patents under his belt. So nobody is immune to luck factor.
Now that you have become a GC holder and soon going to be a citizen, you are so much worried about the wage levels and and L1 visas. You are ok with H1Bs because you were on H1B earlier in your life.
Did you ever worry about depressing citizen's wages when you were on H1B ?
It is one thing to be so self centered, another to say it aloud on a prospective immigrant's forum like IV.
BTW america is the best place to do business. If you feel threatened by more work force entering USA, become an entrepreneur like Vivek Wadhwa, not a loser like Ron Hira.
Aren't we Indians a bunch of crabs !
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dilipcr,
Don't tell us you are trying to save america for americans ( now that you are going to be a citizen)
You are just trying to close the door behind you.
You think Grassley bill is good for everyone. Yeah sure it is good for you !
You have begun to think like loosers guild( aka programmers guild)
You claim the fittest will survive and you don't need any luck to survive. However you had your round of layoffs too. That is a fact of american job market. Luck does play a lot in people's lives especially here in US. I have heard of an IBM engineer who was laid off during 2001 recession. He had 2 patents under his belt. So nobody is immune to luck factor.
Now that you have become a GC holder and soon going to be a citizen, you are so much worried about the wage levels and and L1 visas. You are ok with H1Bs because you were on H1B earlier in your life.
Did you ever worry about depressing citizen's wages when you were on H1B ?
It is one thing to be so self centered, another to say it aloud on a prospective immigrant's forum like IV.
BTW america is the best place to do business. If you feel threatened by more work force entering USA, become an entrepreneur like Vivek Wadhwa, not a loser like Ron Hira.
Aren't we Indians a bunch of crabs !
unitednations
02-17 11:47 AM
This argument does not have much merit. You are confusing diversity with skills - if those friends, cousins etc. meet the job requirements, there is no issue in hiring them for open positions. You are asking us to believe that a country that does not believe in affirmative action in the job market and depends on voluntary action by employers to enhance diversity cares about any of this when it comes to immigration.
No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefitting non-Europeans.
If you go to the earliest visa bulletins posted on department of state web-site; you will see that Dominican Republic EB3 was retrogressed at one point. Think about that. Dominican Republic; how small is that country. Reason it was retrogressed is probably everyone was getting everyone of their relatives, etc., to come to USA through employment base. The country quota in my mind is designed to prevent such abuses of people making an end run and designing systems to get people from certain countries here.
There is a department of labor precedent court case where they can deny a labor if you are sponsoring a relative or a "close friend". The premise being that if there is a close relationship then the job cannot be truly open to Americans. I have seen USCIS also use this in a case where they figured out that CEO of the company was sponsoring his brother through employment base. This particular case, really opened up my eyes to how EB immigration was working and I started to see things a little bit better from USCIS point of view. Up to this point I thought everyone who was getting EB greencard or H-1b was highly specialized and it was a very difficult thing to do. Company I worked with had a decent number of people on H-1b at the entry level. It was all nationalities and they were from F-1. However,when it came time to sponsor them for greencard, they wouldn't do it because they couldn't satify themselves that no American was available for the job.
In this past year, I have seen USCIS get really, really difficult with h-1b's and greencards. The backlog labors are also getting a tough time. USCIS, department of state, backlog reduction center is treating the consulting companies as temporary staffing companies. There is a whole bunch of requriements that these various agencies are setting and many companies are withdrawing or deciding to not respond to these queries. When this starts happening behind the scenes then it doesn't bode well for "friendly" type immigration policies.
Last year; when cybersoftech situation happened where he filed 350 I-140's, falsified labors; falsified his tax returns, etc., and all the cases were denied or revoked; many of the candidates thought they had been cheated and that USCIS/senators/congressmen were going to make accomodations for them. Nothing like this happened; they were calling themselves "victims" and thought they should get honorary greencard because of what they had been through.
From USCIS/DOL point of view it gave them a case study of the manipulations of the system and how everything worked. Now; they are starting to hold companies to a very high standard and looking for these types of tendenices/trends. If a company has too many H-1b's filed, too many I-140's then they are looking at it as if the company is set up for immigration purpose.
One thing that people shouldn't lose sight of is that a company does not need to sponsor you for a greencard. They could fire you or lay you off at any time. All they need to do is buy you a plane ticket home. All these arguments that people have about spouse not being able to work, career stagnation, etc., would still be arguments if you stayed here on H-1b for six years. if company wasn't going to sponsor you for greencard then these arguments would still apply that you are using. However, would anyone listen if a company didn't want to sponsor you. Why is this relevant? A company is sponsoring you but they are not very interested in lobbying for you. If a company wants you on a permanent basis but it is taking too long then you would think they would lobby for you. They are the petitioner.
Now; companies want more H-1b's. in fact they really don't want it an increase. What is happening is that companies are filing H-1b's six months in advance for jobs they do not have. Ask people who go for visa stamping initially, how difficult it is for company to get them a visa without bull------- about it.
You have the traditional L-1 companies who are filing h-1b's and L-1's because of the no body shopping rule. Depending on the project, bill rates, etc., they determine whether a person will come on h-1 or l-1. it is like they are reserving the right ahead of time depending on their needs. The traditional American company can only get fresh quota cases if they have people on OPT working there. However, if they find a candidate sometime in October they cannot file an H-1b for them. So what is the solution? Increase the cap or make it extremely difficult to get H-1b visa approved and teach everyone a lesson.
This is not as simple as everyone may think it is. There are a lot of things happening behind the scense where there is a "tightening" of approvals and visas.
Now; some people may not like this posting. However; you need to have as much information as possible in order to strategize and talk to various decision makers. Some of them might sit there and listen to you but then when they start studying the situation they might come to know what I have posted here. if/when quota increases, it will probably be because when the intial 140,000 was set; the economy was at a different stage, population was at a different stage. The increase would probably just follow market realities (population is more then what it was when 140,000 was set and we need to adjust it accordingly).
No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefitting non-Europeans.
If you go to the earliest visa bulletins posted on department of state web-site; you will see that Dominican Republic EB3 was retrogressed at one point. Think about that. Dominican Republic; how small is that country. Reason it was retrogressed is probably everyone was getting everyone of their relatives, etc., to come to USA through employment base. The country quota in my mind is designed to prevent such abuses of people making an end run and designing systems to get people from certain countries here.
There is a department of labor precedent court case where they can deny a labor if you are sponsoring a relative or a "close friend". The premise being that if there is a close relationship then the job cannot be truly open to Americans. I have seen USCIS also use this in a case where they figured out that CEO of the company was sponsoring his brother through employment base. This particular case, really opened up my eyes to how EB immigration was working and I started to see things a little bit better from USCIS point of view. Up to this point I thought everyone who was getting EB greencard or H-1b was highly specialized and it was a very difficult thing to do. Company I worked with had a decent number of people on H-1b at the entry level. It was all nationalities and they were from F-1. However,when it came time to sponsor them for greencard, they wouldn't do it because they couldn't satify themselves that no American was available for the job.
In this past year, I have seen USCIS get really, really difficult with h-1b's and greencards. The backlog labors are also getting a tough time. USCIS, department of state, backlog reduction center is treating the consulting companies as temporary staffing companies. There is a whole bunch of requriements that these various agencies are setting and many companies are withdrawing or deciding to not respond to these queries. When this starts happening behind the scenes then it doesn't bode well for "friendly" type immigration policies.
Last year; when cybersoftech situation happened where he filed 350 I-140's, falsified labors; falsified his tax returns, etc., and all the cases were denied or revoked; many of the candidates thought they had been cheated and that USCIS/senators/congressmen were going to make accomodations for them. Nothing like this happened; they were calling themselves "victims" and thought they should get honorary greencard because of what they had been through.
From USCIS/DOL point of view it gave them a case study of the manipulations of the system and how everything worked. Now; they are starting to hold companies to a very high standard and looking for these types of tendenices/trends. If a company has too many H-1b's filed, too many I-140's then they are looking at it as if the company is set up for immigration purpose.
One thing that people shouldn't lose sight of is that a company does not need to sponsor you for a greencard. They could fire you or lay you off at any time. All they need to do is buy you a plane ticket home. All these arguments that people have about spouse not being able to work, career stagnation, etc., would still be arguments if you stayed here on H-1b for six years. if company wasn't going to sponsor you for greencard then these arguments would still apply that you are using. However, would anyone listen if a company didn't want to sponsor you. Why is this relevant? A company is sponsoring you but they are not very interested in lobbying for you. If a company wants you on a permanent basis but it is taking too long then you would think they would lobby for you. They are the petitioner.
Now; companies want more H-1b's. in fact they really don't want it an increase. What is happening is that companies are filing H-1b's six months in advance for jobs they do not have. Ask people who go for visa stamping initially, how difficult it is for company to get them a visa without bull------- about it.
You have the traditional L-1 companies who are filing h-1b's and L-1's because of the no body shopping rule. Depending on the project, bill rates, etc., they determine whether a person will come on h-1 or l-1. it is like they are reserving the right ahead of time depending on their needs. The traditional American company can only get fresh quota cases if they have people on OPT working there. However, if they find a candidate sometime in October they cannot file an H-1b for them. So what is the solution? Increase the cap or make it extremely difficult to get H-1b visa approved and teach everyone a lesson.
This is not as simple as everyone may think it is. There are a lot of things happening behind the scense where there is a "tightening" of approvals and visas.
Now; some people may not like this posting. However; you need to have as much information as possible in order to strategize and talk to various decision makers. Some of them might sit there and listen to you but then when they start studying the situation they might come to know what I have posted here. if/when quota increases, it will probably be because when the intial 140,000 was set; the economy was at a different stage, population was at a different stage. The increase would probably just follow market realities (population is more then what it was when 140,000 was set and we need to adjust it accordingly).
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cableman
05-10 06:27 PM
Does anyone have a comment on this ?
I got this from: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/imm-law.html#act12
Permanent residents
Persons who have been admitted to Canada as permanent residents have the right to come to the country and remain here, provided they have not lost that status or it has not been established that they have engaged in activities, such as criminal acts, that would otherwise subject them to removal.
Conditions may be imposed for a certain period on some permanent residents, such as entrepreneurs. A permanent resident must live in Canada for at least 730 days (two years) within a five-year period. In some situations, time spent outside Canada may count. All permanent residents must comply with this residency requirement or risk losing their status.
According to the website, you will lose your status if you go to Canada in the 5th year because you won't be able to attain the requirement of living in Canada for at least 730 days (two years) within a five-year period. Actually, after you pass your 3rd year, you will be in risk for the permanent status.
I got this from: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/imm-law.html#act12
Permanent residents
Persons who have been admitted to Canada as permanent residents have the right to come to the country and remain here, provided they have not lost that status or it has not been established that they have engaged in activities, such as criminal acts, that would otherwise subject them to removal.
Conditions may be imposed for a certain period on some permanent residents, such as entrepreneurs. A permanent resident must live in Canada for at least 730 days (two years) within a five-year period. In some situations, time spent outside Canada may count. All permanent residents must comply with this residency requirement or risk losing their status.
According to the website, you will lose your status if you go to Canada in the 5th year because you won't be able to attain the requirement of living in Canada for at least 730 days (two years) within a five-year period. Actually, after you pass your 3rd year, you will be in risk for the permanent status.
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amsgc
07-04 11:22 AM
Need more titles!
Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!
"The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9
Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!
"The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9
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gdilla
05-25 01:09 PM
The logic being applied at the NotCanada website is perplexing. Yes, the Canadian immigration system can be improved, but people who qualify to get in think by stepping foot on the soil their lives will be all peachy are delusional. It would be like any of you EBs coming to the US with no job offer. How long would you survive? I doubt 4 weeks. You wouldn't be able to rent a place, get a credit card, or, duh, have a paycheck. Obviously you think US is easy because when you come here, you're already employed. Canada can improve immigration system by encouraging immigrants to look for jobs before carting their entire families over. But still, the burden is on the immigrant to use their common sense. Canada, nor any country, owes you a job of your liking. YOU have to take care of yourself. It's mind boggling that an educated doctor from another country doesn't ask one colleague, or research the internet, or apply for a job, before immigrating to a country on the otherside of the planet.
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BharatPremi
12-13 02:16 PM
The OP was whether the country quota is constitutional. My interest was to find out if the current laws and regulations are violated by the country quota.
As lazycis pointed out, SC seems to uphold the current situation.
I was not looking into arguing in a court whether a particular regulation is fair or not. The law is what it is (what I or you consider fair or unfair is immaterial), question was : Is the law being implemented or not? Seems like it is.
To change the law, we as IV are lobbying and meeting lawmakers already.
Unless a constitutional lawyer says otherwise, I see no reason to pursue the country quota in a court, considering lazycis post.
Yes. As long as it is established as "law" we can not pursue the solution in a court.
As lazycis pointed out, SC seems to uphold the current situation.
I was not looking into arguing in a court whether a particular regulation is fair or not. The law is what it is (what I or you consider fair or unfair is immaterial), question was : Is the law being implemented or not? Seems like it is.
To change the law, we as IV are lobbying and meeting lawmakers already.
Unless a constitutional lawyer says otherwise, I see no reason to pursue the country quota in a court, considering lazycis post.
Yes. As long as it is established as "law" we can not pursue the solution in a court.
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NNReddy
04-03 01:12 AM
1. Mayawati.
2. Sharad Pawar.
3. ManMohan Singh.
one of these for sure
2. Sharad Pawar.
3. ManMohan Singh.
one of these for sure
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sroyc
09-24 02:06 PM
Read any visa bulletin. It's in there.
SROYC,
Can you give me USCIS or any other authentic Doc/link which states ICMP share is 7% of 28.6% ? In years I have not found such doc. Therefore, assuming USCIS works fairly :D I had to divide 28.6% by 5 - equal share for each country within particular category.
Yes, there are many other factors we will have to factor in like incoming flow of applications, swith over count, spillover at the end of the year.
SROYC,
Can you give me USCIS or any other authentic Doc/link which states ICMP share is 7% of 28.6% ? In years I have not found such doc. Therefore, assuming USCIS works fairly :D I had to divide 28.6% by 5 - equal share for each country within particular category.
Yes, there are many other factors we will have to factor in like incoming flow of applications, swith over count, spillover at the end of the year.
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immi_enthu
07-26 05:34 PM
I am not with Amway or Quixtar but I think the folks with Amway/Quixtar are under represented on this thread and it's not fair :-)
Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D
Here I go ...
You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.
What's your response ?
:D:D:D:D
Just to add another dimention to this thread I will play the devil's advocate :D
Here I go ...
You guys are all wasting your free time bitching on this thread where as we are spending all our free time growing our business. We will retire early as we would make $xxxx/month for nothing when we turn 40 and dont need to work anymore where as all you guys bitching about Amway / Quixtar will still be working hard at your jobs till 60.
What's your response ?
:D:D:D:D
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abracadabra102
09-03 09:20 PM
The epitaph,
"No better friend, No worse enemy"
fits YSR nicely.
"No better friend, No worse enemy"
fits YSR nicely.
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snthampi
07-30 01:11 PM
Met this dude once in a grocery store, he and his hot wife gave me the amway speil. I said listen buddy give me a time to visit your house and number. I called him and we played phone tag, one day I called and his wife picked up, i ASKED IF i could come, she was hesitant and said he was out of state for a conference but I convinced her that it's ok. When I arrived I brought a bottle of wine and then she was all over me in 5 mins. Sigh what a wonderful time....
Sounds like a fake story???? Or may be true. But is very very funny :D
Sounds like a fake story???? Or may be true. But is very very funny :D
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gcretroiv
10-23 01:00 PM
I guess nobody answer this even they know. Probably everybody is angry on Labor substitution
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gc_lover
06-27 03:43 PM
I am sorry to say that all EB-3 and EB-2 dates have gone back to 2001. Please check DOS site.
*******You want rumor.....I will give you rumor ************
We want rumor not heartattack. ;)
*******You want rumor.....I will give you rumor ************
We want rumor not heartattack. ;)
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looivy
01-13 11:53 AM
I think you should start EB3India.org (not affiliated to IV) similar to EB3Chinese.org
Good Things about IV
1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV
Concerns of IV
1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive
What IV is doing wrong
1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.
How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good
What IV can do right
1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.
2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.
What wil happen if IV does the above
1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)
2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.
Synopsis
How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.
One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.
On a funny flip side ...............................
How will this be treated by the current members
Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things
By the way guys i am a She not a He
Adieu/Ciao
Good Things about IV
1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV
Concerns of IV
1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive
What IV is doing wrong
1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.
How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good
What IV can do right
1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.
2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.
What wil happen if IV does the above
1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)
2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.
Synopsis
How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.
One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.
On a funny flip side ...............................
How will this be treated by the current members
Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things
By the way guys i am a She not a He
Adieu/Ciao
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deepakjain
01-22 04:17 PM
Deepak, are you a consultant or FTE?
I work on full time basis. have pending 485 and do have EAD and AP, per my attorney decided to get visa stamped on my passport so that do not have to renew AP and EAD every year. I do not intend to leave the employer neither does my employer has any intention of kicking me out.
I work on full time basis. have pending 485 and do have EAD and AP, per my attorney decided to get visa stamped on my passport so that do not have to renew AP and EAD every year. I do not intend to leave the employer neither does my employer has any intention of kicking me out.
kevin08
03-28 12:47 AM
remove Atalaji...add Bahenji.
dealsnet
05-18 01:42 PM
It is not good to put fake identity in any forums. The guy (MARPHAD) pointed out have a good civic sense. Here admins are not paid. They have jobs, and not always watching people. This site is for every one. So the members have an obligation to find out the fake, anti immigrants. He may not be anti immigrant, but he have fake identity. So if you not correct, and going in wrong path, some one may point out to you. Do not expect you need or only obey a Police to get a direction. Grow up guys.
How has panini's profile in THIS THREAD got anything to do with immigration? this is NOT an immigration related thread. If you should police a person's profile in an immigration related thread no one would object, but this is the wrong thread. And isn't the default changeability the US ? Your accusations are pretty strong and doesn't seem to have any backing; what are the rumors that he has been spreading ? anti immigrant ???
If you should police this site, then ask the Admin's to close non immigration related threads that have a political debate involved.
How has panini's profile in THIS THREAD got anything to do with immigration? this is NOT an immigration related thread. If you should police a person's profile in an immigration related thread no one would object, but this is the wrong thread. And isn't the default changeability the US ? Your accusations are pretty strong and doesn't seem to have any backing; what are the rumors that he has been spreading ? anti immigrant ???
If you should police this site, then ask the Admin's to close non immigration related threads that have a political debate involved.
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